But it really doesn't matter if the k is there or not, except in the circles where it does matter. For me it all bubbles up the same... but then, I was always one for informal rituals, the ones that are done because they need doing right now and there's no time for the bell, book, and candle. Now that I think about it, I'm almost wonderous afraid to think what would happen if I *did* do a true formalized ritual.